Kimbra & Jamie Wheal: Reimagining Mysticism, Christ & the Future of Faith
The New Zealand singer and songwriter Kimbra joins Pinchbeck and Jamie Wheal to discuss Christian mysticism and what a workable faith community might look like now. Raised in an atheist, scientific household, Kimbra describes an early mystical experience in New Zealand, an out-of-body state of overwhelming love carrying both a Christ aspect and a feminine presence, and her inability to find language for it within the church until she encountered mystics who could hold paradox. The three argue that religious vocabulary has become so politically loaded that words like Christian and sin land as landmines. Wheal recommends Jim Marion’s Putting on the Mind of Christ, which reads stages of faith through developmental psychology and spiral dynamics, and separates congregational belonging from actual mystical experience. Burning Man, the Grateful Dead and Taylor Swift fandom are raised as contemporary substitutes.